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Is the Bible the word of God?

06/22/07

Is the Bible the word of God?

Permalink 10:05:33 am, Categories: Theory and Theosophical, Current Events and News, 814 words

Is the Bible the word of God?

I hear it all the time, "The Bible is the word of God", and "the only way to God is through the Bible", so this got me thinking about Gods word and how fickle it is. To put my thinking into perspective lets got way back in Christianity to the time just after Jesus died. As an early Christian God decided you did not need a Bible. Jesus certainly did not have one, and neither did any of his disciples.

It was a pretty hard following all the Biblical codex`s back in time, but I have tried to be as accurate as possible.

The first Christian "Bible" I could find was a Greek translation of the Old Testament called the Septuagint. It was different to the Hebrew canon in that it contained books called, "anagignoskomena" (that's a mouthful!). It was only a couple of hundred years later that the Old Testament and the New Testament were put into the same book. However it was very different to the Bible we know of today. It included books like the Book of Nehemiah, Esdras and the Book of Esther. This early Bible was called the Codex Vaticanus.

I will quote what Tertullian had to say about the early versions of the the this Bible, "This may be understood to be the Divine Word, who is doubly edged with the two testaments of the law and the gospel"

A couple of years later another version of the "Word of God" was written called the Codex Sinaiticus. It too based its Old Testament content on the Greek Orthodox Septuagint. It was to be called the Codex Sinaiticus. Codex Sinaiticus is written in Greek like the Codex Vaticanus and included such books as the Epistle of Barnabas, and The Shepherd of Hermas .

Now things go pretty well for another 200 years and then God decides new revisions to His Word need to be done, so he contacts this bloke called Jerome (who at the time is a womaniser in Pope Damasus's court), and asks Jerome to translate the Bible from Greek into Latin. However God has a change of mind and decides to deviate from tradition and instructs Jerome not to use the Greek Septuagint as his source for the Old Testament but rather to use Hebrew Tanakh. The oldest known copy of the Vulgate Bible is known as the Codex Amiatinus.

Not many changes happened after this as the Church consolidated its power and everyone became religious. We call this time period the Dark Age. A time when human ingenuity was regarded as sacrilege and anyone who defied or questioned "the Word of God" was often tortured to death.

It was not until 1388 when John Wycliffe created the first English version of the Bible (based on Vulgate), that the common English world got to read the Bible, but God was not finished changing His Word yet.

In 1546 God got involved in Catholic / Protestant Church politics and called together the Council of Trent whereby through the "guidance of God", the Catholics came to the conclusion that the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed was still right and that the deuterocanonical books really should be in the Bible. Gods Word got revisions in both 1563 with the Anglican Thirty-Nine Articles and the Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for Calvinism.

Even today the Bible is still being revised. A couple of weeks ago they found an ancient papyrus of the book Relevations. It was discovered in that Book of Revelations that the "Mark of the Beast" is not "666" but rather, "616".

If the Bible really is the "Word of God" then God word appears to be as fickle as that of man and man's politics. I also got to asking myself, If the Bible has changed so often in its history, who is to say that it is not going to change in the future? Do Christians assume the Word of God to be static and therefore will not investigate further or do they understand there are more changes to come?

While researching this topic I came to the conclusion that a subject as vast and complex of the origins of Biblical scripts and how they came to be in the Bible could not be covered in a simple blog post. I have done my best to give you quick run down on the basic development of the Bible but in truth there is a lot more information and many more factors that contributed towards its evolution.

Over the next couple of weeks I am going to be looking into more specific events on the Biblical Highway. There are some very interesting events in the History of Christianity that I would like to introduce to you as the months go on such as Apocrypha, the Council of Nicea and how the Bishop Irenaeus decided to use only 4 of the 12 Gospels.

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Comment from: Hugo [Visitor]
If you're interested, I can point you at some interesting scholarly literature about the Bible. (If you're in the Stellenbosch area, I can even lend you a book.)

I look forward to seeing what you write. Pity I don't have enough time right now to read it in depth or respond, it will have to wait until I'm finished with my thesis. Of course, bear in mind, you are tackling a certain stereotype. As such, you are very likely to unfairly generalize. Well, such is life. (Though who's to say what's fair and what's unfair, anyway.)
Permalink 06/22/07 @ 17:51
Comment from: Synaptoman [Visitor]
Winston Churchill said,"History will be kind to me, because I intend to write it." or something to that effect.

The circumastances, co-incidences, luck, chance, human interventions, personal opinions, political agendas and manipulations that contributed to the current "Word of God" must surely influence the "thinking mans" opinion of the integrity of this document. Would it stand up to the academic scrutiny that any similar scholarly paper would be subject to if it was presented for publication right now in 2007?

I don't think so !!

Synaptoman
Permalink 06/23/07 @ 09:14
Comment from: Hugo [Visitor]
Synaptoman, have you read any scholarly works studying the bible? Clearly not?

Think how silly a statement the following is:

"Would the Illiad stand up to academic scrutiny if it was presented for publication right now?"

"Any similar scholarly paper"... I'm sorry, what? Are you comparing the bible to a scholarly paper? *sigh*. When will people stop doing that? It isn't a science textbook. (This applies to fundamentalistic Christians as well as to non-Christians.)
Permalink 06/23/07 @ 13:32
Comment from: pb [Member]
Hiya Hugo,

I am curious as why you would choose a fiction book (Illiad) to compare with the Bible... Unless you feel they should be in the same section?

Regards,
PB
Permalink 06/24/07 @ 10:55
Comment from: Walton [Visitor]
I do take offense at your comment on my blog. You wrote:

"I can see no different to people like you on the left, and people like poes.co.za on the right. Think about it."

You see no difference?

("I removed the text as it was pretty bad, and it will effect how google index`s me. I get the point though." pb)

Can you really not see any difference between that - pure hate speech - and what I wrote?

I attack people politically, but not personally. I also use my own name and don't post anonymously.
Permalink 06/24/07 @ 17:03
Comment from: pb [Member]
Hi there Walton,

Your opinion on Israelis could be considered by some to be miff speech. The difference between poes.co.za and you is you have a larger grasp of the English language and are able to articulate your hate better. However your post and my response have nothing to do with this blog post so feel free to continue the conversation in the relevant area or feel free to email me.

Regards,
pb

Permalink 06/24/07 @ 17:38
Comment from: Hugo [Visitor]
Book genres are tricky. I picked Iliad (and spelt it wrong) based on age, more than anything else. It is dated to the 8th or 7th century BC, which places it around the same time as parts of the Old Testament. (Actually, Iliad's older than I thought.

So what does it have in common? The Iliad might also be the product of oral tradition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad#The_Iliad_as_oral_tradition

It includes things we learn about the Trojan war, for example. Serious scholarship of ancient Greek texts, mining them for information about the culture and history of the Greeks, isn't discarded and ignored on the grounds that large parts of it is mythology.

And the Bible obviously also contains mythology. It certainly is no science textbook. It isn't 100% completely fiction either. It is a work of art...? Synaptoman compared it to "any similar scholarly paper". That just seemed utterly absurd. My comparison might seem somewhat absurd as well, but I hope it illustrated my point.

(C'mon, any similar scholarly paper? Say, what? Give me one example of a "similar paper"...? Scholarship? 700BC? Uh... I just can't get my mind wrapped about the absurdity of that comparison. Am I missing something? Yea, I'm probably ignoring the fact that far too many fundamentalists *do* treat it as such. Which is, of course, also rather absurd. But I do understand where they come from, anthropologically, culturally, etc.)
Permalink 06/28/07 @ 14:40
Comment from: Tidez [Visitor]
Trouble begins when man goes and messes with things like scripture, nature etc. but fortunately nature is much smarter than men, and scripture is as well. Although parts of scripture were deliberately changed and left out, these changes and obliterations are not common to all the different religious scriptures. Luckily what this means for us is that there is still a complete set of it out there, even if it isnt in 1 book - I mean, do you think God would be so stupid as to put all his eggs in 1 basket? As the saying went 'All roads lead to Rome', so the meaning of many religions all lead to God. The meaning is not just the words on the pages, it is the wisdom in the words which is mirrored everywhere so by changing one small part in just a few places it does not change the whole big picture. Wisdom is carried through the ages even if it is not understood by the many, it is heard by the few.
Permalink 07/03/07 @ 01:59
Is the Bible the word of God? Well, if it is - then God certainly HATES the White Race - that's axiomatic.

Over the last two thousand odd years (ever since a depraved aspect Ayran folklore had many of us believe in the collective fables of wandering sorcerers, goetae - a Jesus Ben Pandera and a Jesus Ben Anaias being two that I know of) the White Race has taken a slide downhill. Yeah folks, we're disappearing FOR ETERNITY. The White Race that is. As if the Christian will care though, he just wants to get to heaven heh-heh...

Christianity has muddled our minds and soiled our souls (IMHO).

Whilst many believers await raptures, miracles, second-comings, Judgement Day and a whole host of other 'supernatural' events to happen, I throw my hands up in shock and disbelief.

Sorry folks but my SKIN is my religion. In the words of the late-great Aryan martyr David Lane, "We must preserve the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Those fourteen words say more to me than ANY holy book or ANY religion can.

Of course Christians will say otherwise, as they wait in vain for the Bible's apocalyptic dramas to unfold.

Madness. I could NEVER (again) follow a religion that is so filled with contradictions that it boggles the mind. Your primary function is to propagate your seed. But sadly, miscegenation - and 'love thine enemy' and 'slap my other cheek' will mark the extinction of Our Ultruistic Race within this millenium.

"Bye-bye whitey!"

(I repeat - FOR ETERNITY - unless WE pull a miracle out the bag)

Healthy white females will need to bare AT LEAST 5-7 CHILREN for Our Race (who have created the most incredible things, including Western Civilisation) to pull through into Y3K.

That's the real tragedy. We have been poisoned by this religion. And I don't have to tell you who's complicit in this either because you already know.

Whitey - we stand at 8% of total world population and we're sliding down rapidly each day. We're going the way of the Dodo - AND YOU WORRY ABOUT JESUS?

Pah!

Make babies - and healthy ones, give them (and obviously yourself) your best - then you'll find true spiritual peace. Your seed will be propagated into the future and you'll be helping to save Our Race, that's your heaven.

Otherwise you're just another race traitor.
Permalink 07/09/07 @ 23:39
Comment from: pb [Member]
I would like to point out that anyone who argues about race is debating a non-issue. There can be more genetic difference between two people of the same skin pigmentation and culture than between a cream person from Europe and a brown man from Africa.

Scientifically there is only one race. The human race. However, that said, if people were not acting silly about the pigmentation content of your skin they would be doing it to the color of your hair (oh wait.. they already do that).

So forgive me if I think the term race traitor is naive. Should you wish to debate race, please do it somewhere else. I would rather write a 3000 word blog post on Paris Hilton than debate such a backwards way of thinking.

Please note that your stats saying that white people make up 8% of the worlds population is very wrong. Europe itself comprises 11% of the worlds population. Now add to that North America, Australia, Russia and other areas you will realize how short your figures are.
Permalink 07/10/07 @ 00:43

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